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Thursday, July 20th, 2023 9:02 PM

In a 'No Man's Land' of ATT Fiber Availability

I'm pretty much at my wits end of trying to see how to get fiber availability for a small community of condos/townhomes I live in.

As an HOA member, I've been authorized to reach out to someone on this, and I've tried every avenue I can, both on the personal front and calling the ATT Multifamily sales.

This small community is surrounded by both GPON (1Gb/s) and XG-PON (5Gb/s) service, including sharing an alleyway with multiple buildings and single family homes that have fiber availability (verified both on ATT's search tool, and the FCC Broadband Map). Further, I can physically see the aerial fiber splitters/pulls to those buildings. They run sometimes within ~2 ft of these condos. Despite that, the only service offered here is ancient UVerse 10/50 plans.  I even get junk mailers at my address taunting me with fiber access. There's even an alleyway/right of way with access to the demarc closet that houses the copper lines.

The tech that came out to run a new copper line said that the HOA (read: us) need to reach out to ATT to look into establishing a demarc/access point for the other units or pulling individual lines - but he would not do so personally until it's 'green-lit' in the system. HOW DO WE DO THAT?!

I have an engineering (used to be called 'F Case?) support ticket in - #145920. It seems engineering instantly closes them with 0 comments, work, or investigation done (actual words from a support rep). I've also submitted a query on the ATT Multifamily / Connected Communities sales line - they typically only deal with 50 unit or greater developments, and either new builds or existing fiber run. So that leaves each property owner here only able to contact the generic Fiber sales/support, who again submit tickets that go nowhere because "the HOA has to do it"

I'm at my wits end. Engineering can't be this nebulous god that doesn't exist and the only way to interface with them are tickets that get closed instantly. Can anyone please give some advice? This is a community of ~17 or so people who are asking to give money to ATT. The existing Xfinity and ATT services are truly god-awful. Next thing that may come is an FCC complaint - ATT gets to say they make fiber completely available to this block and zip code (read: get those sweet federal incentive dollars) without actually doing the legwork to connect customers.

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1 year ago

MDU require minimum of 60 units… if had 8 buildings with 8 condos each would have 64 addresses.

ATT is not receiving federal funding for the 10 year fiber build out (2016 to end 2025) in which the company statement is to pass (reach) 30+ million addresses (50% of 60+ million) within 21 state footprint. In 2022 and 2023 spending $2 billion per month average to extend fiber.
https://www.lightwaveonline.com/fttx/ftth-b/article/14235509/att-plans-to-double-fiber-footprint

In 2022, AT&T expects total capital expenditure (capex) of approximately $24 billion – a level it also will reach in 2023. Capex should then decline to the $20 billion range starting in 2024

Not everyone will receive fiber upgrade, some zip codes will be 80+% coverage while others will be less than 20%.
The combined total wil be 50%. 
If individual addresses are not part of the planned expansion requires your HOA to submit MDU request.

If denied for various reasons including not meeting requirements like others have…

https://www.att.com/att/multifamily-property/locator/

then options are limited to current ISPs including cable, telco, FWA from TMobile or Verizon, satellite service including StarLink. Last option may be relocation to one of the current fiber avail addresses.

Just my thoughts…

PS… my single family subdivision does not have fiber either, best speed ATT is 50/10 while the neighborhood across the street was upgraded about 3 years ago. Home directly across 200 ft has internet 1000. Prior to that subdivision being upgraded their best was internet 5 as IP-CO while we could get 50/10. 

Our zip code of 15,000 addresses is currently about 40% fiber or 6000 with FTTP. 

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1 year ago

Thanks for the info, @my thoughts I'm sure you feel the frustration with it being 200ft away. In my case I can nearly reach out my window and tug on the neighbor's line, and it extends far down the street either way of me, so I'm quite literally an island of no FTTP. :)

The tech installing my (backup) 50/10 service was actually able to get someone on the phone who was able to look at the cabling in the area and confirm there seemed to be capacity, and has promised to look into it further - he also agreed it seemed nonsensical given the capacity and strands available up the street, including the folks served with FTTP to the direct left and right of this unit. He was awesome and my faith in AT&T construction/engineering is 5% restored. Sounds like I might be making some headway.

I suppose this topic could be closed for now, but the ticket/overall question still stands.

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