Why does ATT discriminate against disadvantaged neighborhoods?

I’m not aware of Att offering 10 gb service. In my area, the lower priced homes got fiber first. Aerial telephone and electric lines. Underground utility areas got it later. 

File an FCC complaint. 

In my experience, observation the first 5 years (2016 to end 2020) that reached 15 million addresses were primarily the low hanging fruit… small lots, dense population, aerial service… the type of neighborhood would consider redline. The other big buildouts during this time was new greenfield construction of subdivisions and MDUs.

MDUs are apartment / condo complexes with 60 to 400+ units. During that first 5 years I estimated 25% of fiber (3.75 million out of 15 million and many were low income housing in the Milwaukee market. 

During the current 2nd 5 year build out (2021 to end 2025, more lower middle to upper middle income areas being upgraded… a part of that 15 million this time is still NEW GREENFIELD construction development which is generally higher income in more edge of neighborhoods.

However ATT statement has not changed… 50% of hardwired footprint or 30+ million addresses out of 60+ million within 21 state footprint. Some zip codes have 80+% fiber (in the past areas where Google Fiber and ATT Fiber in same cities) while other zip codes are 20% or less fiber. I would estimate my zip code 53188, one of the 3 zip codes for Waukesha Wisconsin, is 15000 addresses with current fiber coverage of 40% or 6000 addresses which includes all classes of income from SNAP to middle class to some $500k+ subdivision (these are newer builds since 2015). 

I am not aware of any redlining, the neighborhood across the street received fiber 3 years previously had ADSL2+ best speed internet 5 … while my neighborhood is from the late 1920s smaller lots (50*120 for 6000 sq feet) aerial service still has internet 50 option from the 10 year Uverse expansion 2006 to end 2015. I had internet 50 for years while across the street it was internet 5 or cable. Now they have fiber along with other neighborhoods surrounding the hospital while the next neighborhoods out from the hospital are not upgraded. I will say I have observed similar when looking at the (4) high schools, immediate neighborhoods by high schools have fiber while next ones out still are Uverse FTTN or ADSL2+ including internet 10 and 5. 

No redlining, just investing in areas with best potential for return. ATT fiber take rate is around 37% meaning with over 20+ million residential addresses they have about 7.4 million fiber subscribers… that is 13.6 million addresses that could order and have not. With less than 30 months to go, about 5 million more will be added to availability and like about 2.5 million subscribers so by Jan 2026 will have 25+ million residential fiber with close to 10 million subscribers (15 million that could have). The other 5 million to make 30+ million addresses passed will be (4) million small businesses and (1) million large businesses. 

edit… the MORE NEW construction occurring in an area means less likely existing area will be upgrade… only so much money and time within 21 state footprint which is about 40% of the entire US population, to complete current 5 year build out.

If a 3rd 5 year build out (2026-2030) occurs I expect all FTTN areas (internet 25 to internet 100) will be upgraded… I estimate this to be about 10 million addresses PLUS any new greenfield builds.  If occurs would bring fiber coverage to about 70+% of hardwired addresses, the rest will likely be 5G cell tower coverage. Hard for me to believe copper services will exist in 2031, just 8 years from now.

Yeah, family place wihtout a house in a mile in all 4 directions has *TWO* FTTH (two two-fiber lines ran to their home) (because rural) 

That's really pretty deflating to hear that "the more they build in your neighborhood the more likely you *wont* get the upgrades

That's just trash. The best ATT I can get is 8mbps, and *the literal cost of re-running hte copper* boggles my mind... because thats' what they said they would do here, fix the copper line, whihc is absolutely destroyed in multiple places both on my property and all the way to ....DSLAM? (i forget what dsl uses, i don't even really care.. not my wheelhouse these days) 

The fiber is running on the line on my side street, 2-layers of snow-shoes.. massive conduit sizes of fiber running through here.

There's also still *the tier-1 lines that all run less than 1/4 mile* from here.... with univeristy of toledo directly across the street, and the intersection closest to me is one of those buildings where you can rent space and have massive bandwidth for whatever you're doing. Cown castle also has ran a lot of new lines to all the t-tmobile 5g towers here. 

The difference between ATT, Zayo, and Crown castle is that ATT is the only one that wants to make it incredibly dificult to get fiber. Crown caslte and zayo reps literally laughed at how ridiculous this situation is.  One of the companies even offered to give an insanely good rate to help establish a local isp to serve the neighborhood. If i had the time, I'd do it in a heartbeat.   Everyone here is sick of the local company (buckeye cable)  who fleeced the inner city to do their fiber build-outs in suburban areas that they previously did not even serve.  (They are the ones with 10gigabit though, jut to one-up att, and they also charge us more, the people who can't get fiber... they charge us more for 400down 10up cable than they charge people for FIVE gigabit service.  (and no, it's not because of a special, it's just the real price) 

I'm not sure how bean counting works at ATT other than the way you described, trying to hit these target numbers of "avalaibility" and "large footprint per capita" ... that said, this is a pretty (Edited per community guidelines) dense area of the city, and everyone here *WANTS* att to do somethign about hte local company, everyone on my block --  literally everyone -- would sign up for att fiber *JUST* to get away from buckeye...   All said and done though, if buckeye installs first, they will just throw a middle finger at att for ignoring this part of the city (again)...  This is kind of a "family neighborhood that is also around 25% student housing for the unviersity. Like i said the best you can get from att here is ... 8mbit (and the lines are DESTROYED.. they'd rather run a new copper line than a fiber line)

I guess i'll viisit both stores sometime next week since summer is starting to come to a close, and see if there's lliterally *ANY* info on what is going to happen here. If there's nothing.. Next neighborhood meeting if there's still no movement from either provider on coming into this neighborhood while they keep using our neighborhood as a place to slop their wires everywhere to get fiber to everyone else... I guess we'll go with the other company that offered to help us build a nonprofit community isp  ... I don't really have the time to be so involved, but winter will give a bit more time, we'll have more people involved, and the money isn't going to be an issue with how many people here are just becoming fed up... and we can microtrench instead of installing more blight on the lines. (i suppose above-ground will have to do in some parts of teh neighborhood and that's fine, pay them their pole fee and tell them to get bent.. Thanks for that one FCC) 

The more i talk about it the more i like the idea of hopping on this .. not sure if we could procure any of the subsidized funds, but honestly even with the numbers ran by us by the otehr major provider last year i think we'd be fine either way, and the people here aren't going to switch if att decides to try to come into this part of town to try to put under a local business.  Everyone already learned their lessons on that front, they'd rather keep their money local and are already used to ATT not caring at all about the service here. 

I'd rather nto have to go through the hassle but the fact is, i need a fat 5gig line and not in the way most of the people on here think they need 5 gigabits of bandwidth ..  My daily uploading can easily surpass a quarter terabyte... and the speed at which those files move to vendors MATTERS. 

Att doesn’t publicly share fiber expansion plans. Even local techs don’t know if fiber is coming until they see it being deployed. If you need 5 gb that badly you could move.